Building a Work Shop: Installing a Metal Ceiling

Building a Work Shop: Installing a Metal Ceiling


what’s up guys yes it is Monday it’s not
freezing cold it’s actually almost 50 degrees right now I do think it’s gonna
rain probably can’t see it here in the video and yes I got my beard trimmed my
haircut I feel great so I’m ready to get going we’re gonna be
working on sealing today we’re gonna be hopefully wrapping the ceiling up and
even working on our sidewalls remember we already laid off our base
trim we got all of our interior wall framing done so
feeling pretty good about this and I want to show you something real quick
now take a look at this see that that is condensation now I get a lot of
questions about vapor barrier and do you really want that vapor barrier on your
walls because you’re gonna trap moisture inside the wall cavity
well this is acting like I think it’s supposed to and that is by keeping the
moisture from going through the insulation and condensing on the
backside of the outside steel so this is this is going to keep moisture that’s in
the building in the building now that does mean that you have to condition the
space that means you have to run a dehumidifier if the humidity level gets
too high we’ve sealed this cavity off we’ve got a breathable weather barrier
on the outside that’s allowing anything on this cavity to breathe but we’re not
letting air pass through from here to there which is where your problems
usually persist now I would love to hear what people think about this and this is
pretty extreme we’ve got a really big warmup so there’s a lot of moisture in
this building right now and so there’s a lot of
condensation that typically is not gonna be here but it just represents what the
thought process is maybe it’s wrong but it’s our thought process we’re stopping
water from going through the cavity and condensing on the outside so I don’t
know I just want to show you guys that so now what we’re doing here in
preparation for the sealing is we’ve got everything cleaned out of the building
because working around stuff is just a super huge pain and right now what we’re
doing is we’re determining the center location and we’re snapping our line for
that first sheet of steel because it is a raised cord trust we usually want to
start in a corner but we really can’t do that because we want to have that crisp
rib line right down the center so what we do is we start in the middle we work
to one side and then we come back to the middle and then we work out the other
side I’m really excited to get this ceiling I love doing the vaulted raised
core trusses and listen it’s going to be insulated I don’t know how many times I
have to say this I don’t how many times I have to answer that comment down in
the comment section but yeah we spend time insulating the wall cavity and we
also insulate the ceiling with an are 38 fiberglass you got cardboard yeah mr. beaver
yeah leave the beaver who’s been so long since I have what’s his name
the the friend that’s always like you look beautiful you look like a buck yeah right yeah let me grab my bro
I might have a girl so it’s all you it’s all you bro
where’s our center line sensor is this guy I know but what are we doing over
here I I wouldn’t do it I just put like a temp screw in it then once we got our
sheet on we’ll climb back up here yeah well we want the plastic on over here
why don’t we put it over on that side then or we could put it over on that
side cuz I wanna let’s strike here but we could throw over that now if you
decide I think the Southside makes more sense okay good get low when the whistle
goes I mean like we might shatter the box real quick do it man come over here
and grab this drills right on my waist right over here in the front I’m just
gonna attack us here so we can give me one second there hit one here and then
we’ll go get McGill peeking Kiera why would just showed up this time
around I think I might have mentioned it but I went ahead and got AC cabinet
grade plywood it was literally a couple dollars more sheet and it looks a ton
better so I’m excited to try that for the first time we typically use a BC X
3/4 plywood and honestly that’s so we can get a lot more strength on the
interior wall customer can hang anything anywhere Oh look at that ac great plywood need to get that file back covers
uncovered get that pile it on the folder and then we’ll get the scissor lift
loaded with our lumber and by then I’ll be down this wall room that’s our seven
floors yet just like I planned it in thank you I look at it do the way around
Greg how did I get blessed with such a preacher like you yeah we’re good come back after lunch and we’ll go ahead
and rip this last piece down to go through there but first half is done
it’s all downhill literally we’re gonna start the peak when we come back and
we’re just gonna go downhill literally I love putting ceiling and yes it’s a lot
of work it’s hard on my shoulders everything’s above your head but with
that mega deck scissor lift three guys the right tools man it goes quick and it
is very gratifying but we’re on the last row of Steel and I think it’s really
cool here to note how the the vapor barrier is getting sucked due to the
vacuum pressure of the soffit draw up to the ridge vent and I always think that’s
pretty cool just seeing the building science of the building actually working
like it’s supposed to which is the chimney effect where it’s pulling that
lower air pressure up to the ridge cap so I think that’s pretty cool similarly 30 and a half to 13 3/8 it’s
always kind of rewarding when you get to your last couple sheets and the whole
run has been within 1/8 inch I think 30 and 3/8 30 and 1/2 measurements so that
means at least that we ran it fairly straight very rarely do you get every
one of them to be exactly perfect but 1/8 inch we can handle that just bought it I think down over there
I’m saying biggest flaw that gun dog nice check out this AC plywood it is
looking great look at look at these seams yes there are multiple pieces
there guys it’s not just one big piece I think that AC plywood was well worth the
extra a couple bucks a sheet I think it totaled about $180 on the job for the
entire amount extra 30 and 3/4 Greg let’s take a step back and look at this
wall it’s gonna be great this is where that 12-foot mezzanine is gonna be it’s
gonna come out of that end wall 12 feet and it’ll be like 8 foot tall so you can
have like a nice little metal metallurgy working area look at that sweet Oh make sure there’s no staples yeah Bob
that’s a great humble gie another path for ya if it don’t look
right probably paternity right touch it why
you know well that was a pretty productive day
for us guys killed it we got the ceiling done that raised chord vaulted look it’s
awesome and then we went ahead we had a little bit like a half hours worth of
time so we went ahead and started on this back wall we got that ACX plywood
ran out scribed around in this corner that turned out pretty good looks like a
nice seamless wraparound corner and then we’ve also got this guy over here
started as well so tomorrow we’ll get back here we’ll run out that plywood
remember there’s a mezzanine back there so we can’t just run the steel on top
we’ll have to do a little bit of I guess special trim I’m gonna go out on the
limb I think tomorrow that interior is gonna be pretty close to getting
finished because there’s not a lot to it and we definitely have some pretty good
systems in place I think to get that done pretty efficiently in one day so
I’m sure I’ll to come back off to make my window trims and then once the
concrete’s done I’m sure we’ll come back for the mezzanine but needless to say
not much left here guys so if you haven’t already hit the subscribe button
give me that thumbs up Greg said he needs it it only is the only way he will
feel good about himself that’s not true Greg is super uber confident but
regardless definitely appreciate your guys support so if you like the video
sorry about the fog just moved into a new climate here in the trailer says
it’s heated but if you liked it hit the subscribe button if you haven’t already
I’d love to hear your thoughts on what you guys think yes remember the ceiling
will be insulated that’s super foggy let’s get that cleaned off well I don’t
know if that’s gonna get any better even if I wipe the lens off so we’ll catch
you guys on the next video thanks a lot for hanging out watching the video but
like I was saying the ceiling will be insulated I will try my hardest to come
by when the subcontractor is here blowing in that fiberglass
but don’t fret we spent time to really make sure that this building is going to
be super energy efficient for our client and I think you will enjoy it for years
to come he definitely is gonna have an awesome
workshop that I’m sure anybody would love to have so we’ll see you guys on
the next video later

100 thoughts on “Building a Work Shop: Installing a Metal Ceiling

  1. Only being 1/8 off on that many runs is outstanding. I'm a Fence Contractor and I would settle for that every time. Great job 👍

  2. Looks good! I use the same AC ply from Menards for my shop projects, it is good stuff. What is the biggest problem with the Hitachi, Metabo HPT nailer you have?

  3. Metallurgy, hmm. Can't think of any of the YouTube machinists/welders/fabricators/etc I currently watch having something built out that way, must be someone keeping under the radar.

  4. Another great video! Looks like you’ve learned a lot from Greg. You should ask him for a raise. He seems to be running circles around everyone at the job site. Outstanding work.

  5. Personally I would never use plastic vapor barrier again. Used one in a guest house I built. Moisture found it's way behind it and caused mold and rot. We just ripped it out and all the old insulation too. Fixing the rotten wood, will stain and odor block prime before reinsulated. Cause a ton of damage. Just think what happens if moisture get behind VB. I have found in my research since that for every nail hole sized penetration in a VB you can get 1 pint of water per year. It's then trapped. Seeing as those are steel buildings and very leaky, air, you may be ok. If you want it sealed 2 inches of closed cell spray foam on the outside will be the best then fill the rest with more or other insulation.

  6. we need a Menard's where i live , the orange and the blue big box stores seems to only carry damaged , out of square , poorly glues reject plywood . even their oak , maple and birch veneer plywood comes unglued before you even finish your projects .

  7. People think that you trap moisture in the insulation when you use a vapor barrier. But it works just like you said stops moisture from inside getting to it. If you have a moisture barrier and the insulation gets wet it's from the outside. Water is getting in somewhere. Someone did a piss poor job of sidding or whatever was used.

  8. 100% Agree with Your VAPOR Barrier Techniques
    = Its Critical
    = Quality Build you all DO
    Keep up the Great Work

    Every time I watch your Videos
    = LIKE your Lifts

    I Fell off a 20 Foot Ladder
    – Totally Blew out my Left ankle
    Had to have Surgery
    Titanium plate with 15 Screws
    IT has taken Year PLUS to Recover

    To any and ALL who may view this Comment
    = AVOID Ladders at all Cost
    Doctors Told me the Fall Could have Killed ME
    ..

  9. Cant you buy your wood and plywoods from the local distributor rather than going through the middle man ( Mynards) and paying additional markup. It looks to me as though you buy enough material that you could get it wholesale. I always could so figured you could if you buy full units .

  10. Kyle were do you run your electrical cables for the ceiling lights when the ceiling is no enclosed, just curious.

  11. Arauco plywood is some good stuff. I just built some awesome shelves for a customer this week out of that stuff. And its reasonably priced. Kyle the vids are always on point. Thanks for sharing buddy.

  12. A well groomed beard looks very professional. When it gets really scruffy, it makes one look like a wannabe extra from Duck Dynasty. I can't say I really like that look, but, of course, à chacun son gôut as les froggies say. So do what makes you happy. For my money, the well-groomed look is the clear winner.

  13. as I would deer a cap of yours those of the rooster.,. I am dee argentinaa ..,. well I know that it is unpossessible mme regales,., una.,., Like greetings,

  14. Excellent work as always! Kyle your buildings are on another level of awesome. I hope one day I can have one built by you and your crew.

  15. that plywood looks great and i love the vaulted ceiling just another great video you guys make it look soooo easy

  16. Apparently there's some trolls following your channel giving thumbs down. They must be very jealous of y'alls extremely hard work and attention to detail. Love your work and keep posting videos.

  17. When you & Greg were talking about "Leave It To Beaver", I believe you were referring to "Eddie Haskell". Love the way you miter your corners! Looks amazing, Bro!

  18. quality work shows the pride your team takes with each build. Live in northern Taxinois (Illinois) and if I win lottery tonight I would pay extra to build me a shop up in cheddarville- Wisconsin. Enjoy the videos and builds.

  19. I'm unclear. Will the ceiling be insulated? And what type of plywood did you use on the walls? Nice one again, bro…

  20. That would be great to see them blow in the ceiling. The wall sheets are so tight, it looks like it came off a roll ! Smashed that like button !

  21. Kyle, what do you do with a shop that will only be heated when you work in it (once or twice a week)? Do you still put in vapor barrier?

  22. Kyle, really enjoy your videos. I am a mechanical engineer and building a house in Finland (much the same climate as where you are). Before I started I read Joseph Lstiburek's book, "Builder's Guide to Cold Climates." It has very good information about vapor barriers and placement. The basic principal is that the temperature varies through the wall structure and as long as the temp is higher than the dew point you will avoid condensation. In our climate (primarily heating-no Air con) the vapor barrier should be on the warm side – like you build. The house wrap you put on the outside works as a wind stop, and is vapor permeable so doesn't really come into play. It is also good to keep the other side ventilated so that any moisture that builds up during wet periods can can dry during dry periods, also how you build. To go to the next level you could start taping the seams of the vapor barrier and add a heat recovery ventilator -not sure people would be willing to pay the premium though. Again really enjoy the videos and your obvious love for your job. Keep up the good work.

  23. Cant understand,!! you had a building with a roof on, you Knew there was gonna be a heavy snowfall, but with all the space in the building you chose to leave youre machines Outside, then had trouble starting them because they were cold??? Duuhh!!. good videos great chanell.

  24. Kyle, I met you at JLC in Providence this weekend, really appreciate you taking the time to chat. Solid dude, one quick suggestion, comment, thought….. have u ever looked into switching to button cap nails instead of cardboard washers.? Stinger is one I have had good success with.

    Love the channel

  25. Not sure how it works on a steel building, but the system on our house (from BuildingScience.com) has no vapor barrier on the inside. It has solid EPS on the outside with steel siding over that (rainscreen construction — no water penetration from the outside), and bat insulation on the inside between the studs. The big difference in design is drywall inside vs. steel. I would be very curious to see what they say on this. I contacted them and sent them a link to this video. It will be interesting to hear what they have to say!

  26. Ahhh 🤔 …….
    MYSELF & THIS GUY NAMED
    ( EDDIE HASKELL ) 😁 Snickering Here
    WOULD LIKE 2uuu (KNOW) IF ???
    THE (CEILING) 👈🏼 WILL BE (INSULATED)
    ( KNUCKLE👊🏽BUMP ) RR'Buildings Crew

  27. Love watching your videos. I am having a 57×72 built this spring here in southeast Nebraska. I am going to do a 20×32 room/mezzanine. Can you show how you guys attach the beam/ledger to the wall of the pole barn? Are you using structural lags like the GRK RSS? How many per column? Thanks!! Keep up the good work.

  28. I want to see what got cut out between 5:54 and 5:55 because it had to be good. Great to see you and have short chat with you at JLC Live!

  29. Great video A lot of good practical info that people can use Thanks Enjoyed the section on vapor barrier Maybe you and Matt should produce a video together and put all of these question to rest One good builder and one good science guy.

    It was Eddie Haskell

  30. sealing the inside of the building will create moisture inside, you have to install ventilation vents at the top and the bottom of the building to create airflow, they must be installed to the outside air, to prove my point get a ice chest or cooler and leave it outside, you will see it will be wet inside as moisture cannot escape due to not having airflow, everything will go green and create bacteria to grow which will ruin your health, you have to look at venting volatile gasses as well which will kill you, plus fuels cannot be stored inside as a small amount left overnight if it get a spark the entire building will explode.

  31. glad you showed the condensation on the inside plastic; just a confirmation of what you've been saying all along. good thinking

  32. We are doing a living space that will have a metal ceiling liner and Blown Fiberglass R38… The insulation contractor has indicated that "poly would / should be used on side walls. On a metal ceiling we don't use it so the moisture can pass through and be handled by the ventilation." I would like to know if there are different views on this and what the reasons would be before the structure is built if anyone has counter information.

  33. When you’re building a garage do you have to get permits if so what you have to go through in order to do one ?

  34. What’s the wind rating on this building? I’m looking into building one down south and close to bay, so just trying to get a idea.

  35. Awesome vid, as always!
    Quick note: I noticed your DB suspenders are clipped on the wrong sides at the back; I find mine more comfortable when they form an 'X' (Right strap clips onto the left D-loop, and visa-versa).

  36. I live in Texas so the insulation rating is a little different ; however, my drafting skills and building expertise say you are completely right in the fact that you want you outside to breathe and thing inside vapor barrier to have condensation in the interior of the building (provided you you regulate the humiy inside the building)that provides the same function as a brick fascia to sheathing breathable space. It's super cool to see the difference in building structures like this from the South to North so good on you my guy keep it up!

  37. What gauge material do you use for your ceilings so that it doesn’t bow or sag over a 8’ span with insulation weight on top? Looks to be a 3/4” rib height but can’t tell if it’s 29 or 26 gauge. Thanks in advance! Keep up the good work!!

  38. Great job, I think it would be a lot of fun to spend a week working on one of your projects, y'all seem very personal and nice guys close knit…. reminds me of the last crew I worked with with a happy, pretty good morale.

    At my last Construction job, (over ten years), we the "employees, labor", called it "close enough Construction", and our unofficial motto was "if it's good enough for the us, its got to be good enough for our customers….." this was the best way we found a f*** with our boss as I'm sure you've been f*** with by your gang. But it's all and good fun we all truly loved one another else we would not have been a solid crew for over 10 years.

  39. Trimmed beard looks better on a slim face Kyle. Lean & Mean little green fighting machine!

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  41. Hey Kyle, I am watching this entire build series and I was wondering why you guys do not Tuck Tape the joints on the vapour barrier?

  42. With the 8 foot spacing between the trusses how to you get around in the attic? I am thinking of the insulation installers climbing from truss to truss.

  43. What tool do you use to rip the steel? Where do you get your steel? Thanks I have a 60×32 building coming up where I am going to do the steel ceiling, but it’s not something we normally do. Thanks very much.

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